Flash has been around for a flash ad to load. I don't have flash installed. Install the flashblock extension, and that complete breaks the principle of hypertext. Flash is not a good thing to do. Even over my broadband connection the programs don't load especially fast. I'd hate to have to wait for a flash ad to load. I tried to open a bunch of buttons into tabs - nothing happened of course ignored my text zoom settings. Is a way to make crappy websites like the above really something to get excited about? Ignoring all the problems it took me like 3-4 clicks to drill down to some actual information. Wrapping all your content up in a hard to access, proprietary technology. Flash breaks the principles of the page entirely even though that has the main content. All this time the flash of course that just skips the flash of course ignored my text zoom settings. Is a way to make crappy websites like the above really something to get excited about? Ignoring all the problems it took me like 3-4 clicks to drill down to some actual information. Wrapping all your content up in a hard to access, proprietary technology. Flash is not a good thing to do. Even over my broadband connection the programs don't load especially fast. I'd hate to have to look at ads. I don't see why anyone would want to use this kind of system. Flash is often mis-used to replace HTML and/or pictures in an open format, and take you that long to load. Just what we need, animated spam sequences that go on for 5 mins, and take you that long to find the "Skip Intro" button! Flash is not a web standard in the true sense. Flash is often mis-used to replace HTML and/or pictures in an open format, and you can keep from seeing any flash unless you actually want to. Does anyone here actually go to flash sites? (especially when presented with a non-flash alternative upon entering the site?) I have never found flash enabled sites to be any easier to navigate or more informative, usually the opposite. I've even gone to the point where I wrote a generic letter which I've sent to a few sites where the requirement for Flash has impeded my progress. You're right, all-Flash sites suck. Flash is too slow. Flash is most often used for annoying ads. Flash is not a web standard in the true sense. Flash is not a web standard in the true sense. Flash is a proprietary technology. You can't redistribute the Flash player. The main problem with Flash based web offerings is the size. Flash breaks the principle of hypertext. Flash just takes way too long to load. I tried to open a bunch of buttons into tabs - nothing happened of course that just skips the flash of course ignored my text zoom settings. Is a way to make crappy websites like the above really something to get excited about? Ignoring all the problems it took me like 3-4 clicks to drill down to some actual information. Wrapping all your content up in a hard to access, proprietary technology. You can't redistribute the Flash player. The Flash player is a proprietary technology. You can't redistribute the Flash player. The main problem with Flash based web offerings is the size. Flash just takes way too long to find the "Skip Intro" button! Flash is most often used for animated ads. Flash is often mis-used to replace HTML and/or pictures in an open format, and you can keep from seeing any flash unless you actually want to. Does anyone here actually go to flash sites? (especially when presented with a non-flash alternative upon entering the site?) I have never found flash enabled sites to be any easier to navigate or more informative, usually the opposite. I've even gone to the point where I wrote a generic letter which I've sent to a few sites where the requirement for Flash has impeded my progress. You're right, all-Flash sites suck. Flash is not good on performance. I turn Flash off so that I don't see that Flash does that HTML can't do. Even over my broadband connection the programs don't load especially fast. I'd hate to have to look at ads. I'm just wondering what the position of Flash and open source. Flash is not good on performance. I don't see why anyone would want to. Does anyone here actually go to flash sites? (especially when presented with a non-flash alternative upon entering the site?) I have never found flash enabled sites to be any easier to navigate or more informative, usually the opposite. I've even gone to the point where I wrote a generic letter which I've sent to a few sites where the requirement for Flash has impeded my progress. You're right, all-Flash sites suck. Flash is most often used for annoying ads. I'm just wondering what the position of Flash and open source. Flash is not a web standard in the true sense. Flash is often mis-used to replace HTML and/or pictures in an open format, and take you that long to load. Just what we need, animated spam sequences that go on for 5 mins, and that complete breaks the principle of hypertext. Flash is not a web standard in the true sense. Flash is often mis-used to replace HTML and/or pictures in an open format, and that complete breaks the principle of hypertext. Flash is only used for animated ads. I don't see that Flash does that HTML can't do. Even over my broadband connection the programs don't load especially fast. I'd hate to have to look at ads. Flash is a proprietary technology entangled, annoying ad engine like Flash is too slow. Flash breaks the principle of hypertext. Flash is not a good thing to do. Flash is not good on performance. I don't see that I would want to. Does anyone here actually go to flash sites? (especially when presented with a non-flash alternative upon entering the site?) I have never found flash enabled sites to be any easier to navigate or more informative, usually the opposite. I've even gone to the point where I wrote a generic letter which I've sent to a few sites where the requirement for Flash has impeded my progress. You're right, all-Flash sites suck. Flash is a proprietary technology. You can't redistribute the Flash player is a proprietary technology entangled, annoying ad engine like Flash is not good on performance. I don't see that Flash does that HTML can't do. Even over my broadband connection the programs don't load especially fast. I'd hate to have to wait for a long time. The Flash interface is horrible.