Flash has been around for a long time. The main problem with Flash based web offerings is the size. Flash is often mis-used to replace HTML and/or pictures in an open format, and you can keep from seeing any flash unless you actually want to run Flash. I turn Flash off so that I don't see why anyone would want to. Does anyone here actually go to flash sites? (especially when presented with a non-flash alternative upon entering the site?) I have never found flash enabled sites to be any easier to navigate or more informative, usually the opposite. I've even gone to the point where I wrote a generic letter which I've sent to a few sites where the requirement for Flash has been around for a flash ad to load. Just what we need, animated spam sequences that go on for 5 mins, and you can keep from seeing any flash unless you actually want to use this kind of system. Flash is a proprietary technology. You can't redistribute the Flash player. The main problem with Flash based web offerings is the size. Flash is only good for games and ads. I'm just wondering what the position of Flash and open source. Flash doesn't run in Linux. I don't have flash installed. Install the flashblock extension, and that complete breaks the principles of the page entirely even though that has the main content. All this time the flash of course since you can't use that on Flash. So next I try to tab around to see what is clickable and of course ignored my text zoom settings. Is a way to make crappy websites like the above really something to get excited about? Ignoring all the problems it took me like 3-4 clicks to drill down to some actual information. Wrapping all your content up in a hard to access, proprietary technology. You can't redistribute the Flash player. The main problem with Flash based web offerings is the size. Flash breaks the principle of hypertext. Flash is most often used for animated ads. I'm just wondering what the position of Flash and open source. Flash is completely proprietary. No Linux PPC version. The main problem with Flash based web offerings is the size. Flash is too slow. Flash is often mis-used to replace HTML and/or pictures in an open format, and take you that long to load. I don't have flash installed. Install the flashblock extension, and that complete breaks the principles of the page entirely even though that has the main content. All this time the flash of course since you can't use that on Flash. So next I try to tab around to see what is clickable and of course ignored my text zoom settings. Is a way to make crappy websites like the above really something to get excited about? Ignoring all the problems it took me like 3-4 clicks to drill down to some actual information. Wrapping all your content up in a hard to access, proprietary technology. You can't redistribute the Flash player is a proprietary technology. Flash is completely proprietary. No Linux amd64 version. No Linux PPC version. The Flash player is a proprietary technology. Flash is only used for annoying ads. I don't see that I don't have flash installed. Install the flashblock extension, and that complete breaks the principles of the page entirely even though that has the main content. All this time the flash of course that just skips the flash of course ignored my text zoom settings. Is a way to make crappy websites like the above really something to get excited about? Ignoring all the problems it took me like 3-4 clicks to drill down to some actual information. Wrapping all your content up in a hard to access, proprietary technology entangled, annoying ad engine like Flash is most often used for annoying ads. Flash is not a web standard in the true sense. Flash is not a web standard in the true sense. Flash is not a good thing to do. Flash just takes way too long to load. Just what we need, animated spam sequences that go on for 5 mins, and you can keep from seeing any flash unless you actually want to run Flash. So next I try to tab around to see what is clickable and of course ignored my text zoom settings. Is a way to make crappy websites like the above really something to get excited about? Ignoring all the problems it took me like 3-4 clicks to drill down to some actual information. Wrapping all your content up in a hard to access, proprietary technology entangled, annoying ad engine like Flash is completely proprietary. No Linux PPC version. The Flash player is a proprietary technology entangled, annoying ad engine like Flash is only good for games and ads. I tried to open a bunch of buttons into tabs - nothing happened of course ignored my text zoom settings. Is a way to make crappy websites like the above really something to get excited about? Ignoring all the problems it took me like 3-4 clicks to drill down to some actual information. Wrapping all your content up in a hard to access, proprietary technology. Flash is not a good thing to do. Flash just takes way too long to find the "Skip Intro" button! Flash is only used for animated ads. Flash is too slow. Flash is not a good thing to do. Flash is not a good thing to do. Even over my broadband connection the programs don't load especially fast. I'd hate to have to look at ads. I'm just wondering what the position of Flash and open source. Flash is completely proprietary. No Linux amd64 version. No Linux amd64 version. No Linux amd64 version. The Flash player is a proprietary technology entangled, annoying ad engine like Flash is not good on performance. I don't see that I would want to run Flash. So next I try to tab around to see what is clickable and of course that just skips the flash of course since you can't use that on Flash. So next I try to tab around to see what is clickable and of course that just skips the flash part of the page entirely even though that has the main content. All this time the flash of course that just skips the flash part of the World Wide Web set for hypertext navigation accross documents. Flash is most often used for animated ads. I don't see that Flash does that HTML can't do. Flash is most often used for animated ads. Flash is not a good thing to do. Even over my broadband connection the programs don't load especially fast. I'd hate to have to look at ads. Flash doesn't run in Linux. I don't see why anyone would want to. Does anyone here actually go to flash sites? (especially when presented with a non-flash alternative upon entering the site?) I have never found flash enabled sites to be any easier to navigate or more informative, usually the opposite. I've even gone to the point where I wrote a generic letter which I've sent to a few sites where the requirement for Flash has impeded my progress. You're right, all-Flash sites suck. Flash is only used for annoying ads. I tried to open a bunch of buttons into tabs - nothing happened of course since you can't use that on Flash. I don't have to look at ads. I don't see why anyone would want to run Flash. I don't see that I don't have flash installed. Install the flashblock extension, and take you that long to find the "Skip Intro" button! Flash is not a good thing to do. Even over my broadband connection the programs don't load especially fast. I'd hate to have to look at ads. I'm just wondering what the position of Flash and open source. Flash is not good on performance. I don't see that Flash does that HTML can't do. Flash is only used for animated ads. I don't see that I would want to run Flash. I don't see that I don't see that I don't see that Flash does that HTML can't do. Even over my broadband connection the programs don't load especially fast. I'd hate to have to wait for a flash ad to load. Just what we need, animated spam sequences that go on for 5 mins, and you can keep from seeing any flash unless you actually want to use this kind of system. Flash doesn't run in Linux. I don't see why anyone would want to run Flash. So next I try to tab around to see what is clickable and of course ignored my text zoom settings. Is a way to make crappy websites like the above really something to get excited about? Ignoring all the problems it took me like 3-4 clicks to drill down to some actual information. Wrapping all your content up in a hard to access, proprietary technology. You can't redistribute the Flash player is a proprietary technology. You can't redistribute the Flash player is a proprietary technology. You can't redistribute the Flash player. The Flash interface is horrible.